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Im gonna give this a try hope it works

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let go

hello all.hope your all doing ok.i had to not go to the bookstore i volunteered for because i was matching very small coincidences and becoming terrified.iv looked for examples of this all over the web,but feel im losing hope.other than its some reverse symmetry going on.it has probably how i viewed the world for a long time and now its just at its peek.there are many connections going on all the time,but tell my ocd that.!i feel like mines more like an avoidant aggressive personality like pete rose has.in short,i freak when things get normal lol.j

the incident

heres one i know pureo can relate to. http://www.epinions.com/content_3284050052
it talks about 'the event' or 'the incident' that makes up a thought that wont leave your mind.i thought i was coming up with these words lol.and i was ,as i tried to help pureo.but it all amounts to us not being crazy,just having ocd,which makes us live crazed lives.i chose the article because it is titled 'obsessing over ocd',which i am obviously doing cause i feel better when i try to find answers sometimes.god bless j

more investigation

well i found something on a site that dealt with 'the phenomenon'of my kind of'delusional thinking'

esides the negative synchronicity that I mentioned earlier, I've also had weird synchronicity since way back. For example, I distinctly remember the fact that a high school teacher verbalized a very unusual word at the exact same time that I'd just been thinking it. I've had many such experiences throughout my life, causing me more over-stimulation than I could handle. Recently, a guy phoned Evelyn Paglini, a guest on the Art Bell show, about this same exact phenomenon of bad luck followed by weird synchronicity. I felt such an overwhelming feeling of validation when I heard him, & Evelyn's taking it in stride, as par for the course! I also had many instances of synchronicity which would mislead me to believe, "Ah... this is meant to be," only to have my balloon deflated upon realizing that path led nowhere.


i dont really believe,or maybe i do,that bad luck or condemnation are caused by synchronicity.my ocd seems to think so and ill ruminate on it.but its nice to see other people experienced the same phenomenon-which is weird synchronicity.weird synchronicity ocd.j

let me finish

this is interesting


or in ndeed a surprise to Surrealists. The latter in particular believed that 'coincidences', so deadIy to the psychotic mind and so relentlessly numerous in delusion are attuned to man's sub-jectivity and that there are links between chance and the unconscious. The 'marvellous' was defined by them in this way [4, p. 125]. I would say that 'the terrible' could also be so defined.

i find this interesting and would like to study the surrealists beliefs,cause we all know how surreal ocd is j

cut and paste

well i took some exerpts from this intellectual mumbo jumbo and pasted them together.i feel these sentences explain somewhat the fear of improbability of coincidence that leaves us paralized.i asked my math teacher today about the probability aspect of pure-o ocd,he thought it was nuts !lol here goes
'This would account for the dread-ful sense of inescapable destiny that 'meaningful coincidences' cause and that drives so many to self-destruction in so-called delusional episodes.'
that exerpt right there hits the nail on the head as far as what i have been experiencing.this is what i talked about when speaking of 1.ocd/delusional thought 2.coincidence occuring at same time 3.final verdict of condemnation/bade fate.
quite simply,as with the age old example,'step on a crack,break your mothers back,'the ocd/delusional thinking is that stepping on a crack will somehow magically'break your mothers back'.where this delusional thought comes from is the 'ocd logic'generator.what puts these 'irrational fears'in our minds we don't know.
then there is the meaningful coincidence of stepping on a crack
followed by the dreadful,inescapable,destiny of having stept on a crack and not able to do an 'undoing ritual'
i cant stress it enough :
ocd thought+coincidence=bade fate

when we overcome this,we will overcome ocd.j

throwing intellectual paint at the wall

no ,i havent lost it and comprehend this stuff.but i know it has something to do with the pureo dilemma.

The Ground of Meaning

In madness, as in poetry, there is still the urge to think even at the edges of experience. It is salutary perhaps that the psychotic and the mystic are allied as this evidences a symmetry in the views of what is the case from 'Heaven'and from 'Hell'. However the seeming orchestration of the terrible phenomena of insanity, which have their power to destroy only because of their felt meaning suggests that a deep 'semantic ground' (eventuating via brains) may underpin the concrete events of daily life, a ground which can be accessed in immediate experience not only in the tranquillity of meditation but in extreme mental states. Our language of 'probabilities', 'forces', 'particles' and so on could well describe epiphenomena of a hermeneutic substrate [1, pp. 94-5]. This would account for the dread-ful sense of inescapable destiny that 'meaningful coincidences' cause and that drives so many to self-destruction in so-called delusional episodes.

The 'Marvellous'

Such a claim, though outrageous to science, coming. would be little surprise either to Jungians with their belief in synchronicity and in the dove-tailing of the psychological and the physical in 'the psychoid' and 'the continuum' realms nor indeed a surprise to Surrealists. The latter in particular believed that 'coincidences', so deadIy to the psychotic mind and so relentlessly numerous in delusion are attuned to man's sub-jectivity and that there are links between chance and the unconscious. The 'marvellous' was defined by them in this way [4, p. 125]. I would say that 'the terrible' could also be so defined.

fishing around same ol crud

According to Frazer, magical thinking depends on two laws: the law of similarity (an effect resembles its cause), and the law of contagion (things which were once in physical contact maintain a connection even after physical contact has been broken). Others have described these two laws as examples of "analogical reasoning" (rather than logical reasoning).

Typically, people use magic to attempt to explain things that science has not yet explained, or to attempt to control things that science cannot. The classic example is of the collapsing roof, described in E. E. Evans-Pritchard's Witchcraft, Magic, and Oracles Among the Azande, in which the Azande claimed that a roof fell on a particular person because of a magical spell cast by another person. The Azande did understand a scientific explanation for the collapsing room (that termites had eaten through the supporting posts), but pointed out that this scientific explanation could not explain why the roof happened to collapse at precisely the same moment that the particular man was resting beneath it. Thus, from the point of view of the practitioners, magic explains what scientists would call "coincidences" or "contingency". From the point of view of outside observers, magic is a way of making coincidences meaningful in social terms. Carl Jung coined the word synchronicity for experiences of this type.

Adherents of magical belief systems often do not see their beliefs as being magical. In Asia, many coincidences and contingencies are explained in terms of karma in which a person's actions in a past life affects current events.

perseverance

perseverence builds character.we have no choice but suicide other than perseverance.im going to persevere.im going through trials now.i took a math exam online and failed it,probably setting me down another course level.THE PROBLEM WAS AS I WAS TAKING THE TEST I HAD OCD/DELUSIONAL THOUGHT,AND I DONT KNOW HOW MUCH THIS AFFECTED MY CONCENTRATION.IM SURE I MISSED A FEW MORE,BUT WOULD HAVE FAILED ANYWAY.Fail forward my brother says.dont be afraid of failure.this is where the boys become the men.living with ocd,wanting toBLAME our failures on ocd,ect.wondering why if there is a god of mercy that we dont get comments on our site.it all has to do with ACCEPTANCE of the situation.which does not mean we try to stop getting better,but applying a spiritual principle to our circumstances.our only comfort comes from SPIRITUAL PRINCIPLES.i am grateful for this site and my new friends.i wish more folks would join in.pz j